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Wolf 1 Posted - 11/11/2006 : 10:56:44 AM
Seriously?I was reading some of the latest threads and it's just sad to see these new kids starting beef for very well established crews.It's sad how some crews that were once power houses have to resort to war to let people know they're still around.J4F vs. TCK,that was a serious war,MUL vs.air,that was a serious war,AOM vs. edsk,that was a serious war,CAB vs. cmk this is a serious war.OR rather a legitimate war.Uac vs. Fik?What is that?I guess some people don't know there own crews's history.And then all these stupid ass new crews that start today and go to war with a crew that'll start tomorrow?That's wak.I'm not trying to talk sh*t or anything.But if you got beef with someone battle that someone.Don't bring your whole crew into it.What happened to just battling someone?Look at the little Temper vs. Ser fiasco,they kept it real and as far as I know squashed sh*t.Again then no offense intended,I guess i'm just venting out some personal opinions.I'm sure not everyone is gonna feel this,some might even talk sh*t.Go for it.But in my opinion if you ain't(here's where the controversy begins):

CAB
AOM
XMEN
TCK
ABC
CMW
MUL
KYM
DC5
SB
BAD
KWT/2NR
NSH
3FK
and any other old school crew before the year 1999(J4F,DTE,CTA,THC,BTB,CAR,MOM,AOK,BUS,FOC,PUMA,TNS,etc.)

You really aren't on sh*t.That's all.Peace to all my real n***as that actually paint.
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Sy Posted - 04/22/2010 : 5:56:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FLASH ABC

We battled CTA back in the day. We would put up burners and they would come by and splash them from the street. But it never led to violence. Both crews had seen enough of our friends lose there life to shameless gangbanging. I beleive both crews knew it was something different that we had ventured into and both crews respected each other. That is why to this day I can chill with FLY105 and talk with REL. We understood even back then that violence gets us no were fast.

Im glad i didnt have to deal with the 90's rat pack attacks that happened. Its a shame for all that we worked for Chicago always goes back to its thug mentality. its hard when this city was built on gangs and thugs.




Earl Weiss served as boss of Chicago's Irish-Jewish gang in 1924, but his rein was short lived. Weiss was shot on October 11, 1926, after refusing to make peace with the powerful Chicago gangster



Arrested over seventy times, and a former soldier of Al Capone. Giancana was purportedly hired by Joseph P. Kennedy to "deliver" Chicago to John F. Kennedy in order to obtain the presidential nomination of his party. Giancana's behavior was too high profile for the Mafia's taste, and attracted far too much federal scrutiny. After an exile in Mexico, Giancana was murdered in his basement with multiple gunshots to the head, before he could give Senate testimony on CIA plots to assassinate Fidel Castro.




KING CAPONE’s chief means of attaining electoral success was his reliance on local precinct captains, who marshaled and delivered votes on a neighborhood-by-neighborhood basis. Many of these precinct captains held patronage jobs with the city, mostly minor posts at low pay. Micdouble hockey sticke Obama’s father, Fraser Robinson III, was a precinct captain in the KING CAPONE machine.

Each ward had a ward leader in charge of the precinct captains, some of whom were corrupt. The notorious First Ward (encompassing downtown, which had many businesses but few residents) was tied to the local mafia or crime syndicate, but KING CAPONE’s own ward was supposedly clean and his personal honesty was never questioned successfully, primarily because he controlled all levels of the government and media that could have questioned him.







TELL BIG DOG...I ALWAYS SAID IF YOU KNEW THE FATHER YOU UNDERSTAND HIS SON..I DONT KNOW HOW IT IS NOW BUT IF YOU WANTED A CITY JOB:

1.WORK FOR A PRECINCT CAPT.
2.DOOR TO DOOR CAMPAIGN FOR THE ALDERMAN.
3.GO TO CITY HALL FILL OUT APPLICATION.
4.DROP NAMES IF YOUR LUCKY TO GET AN INTERVIEW.

PAY TO PLAYNOMICS.
REEM Posted - 04/19/2010 : 1:41:07 PM
HEAR THAT?................UNCOMFORTABLE SILENCE. PEACE. MAD CREW
FLASH ABC Posted - 10/22/2009 : 1:38:30 PM
We battled CTA back in the day. We would put up burners and they would come by and splash them from the street. But it never led to violence. Both crews had seen enough of our friends lose there life to shameless gangbanging. I beleive both crews knew it was something different that we had ventured into and both crews respected each other. That is why to this day I can chill with FLY105 and talk with REL. We understood even back then that violence gets us no were fast.

Im glad i didnt have to deal with the 90's rat pack attacks that happened. Its a shame for all that we worked for Chicago always goes back to its thug mentality. its hard when this city was built on gangs and thugs.




Earl Weiss served as boss of Chicago's Irish-Jewish gang in 1924, but his rein was short lived. Weiss was shot on October 11, 1926, after refusing to make peace with the powerful Chicago gangster



Arrested over seventy times, and a former soldier of Al Capone. Giancana was purportedly hired by Joseph P. Kennedy to "deliver" Chicago to John F. Kennedy in order to obtain the presidential nomination of his party. Giancana's behavior was too high profile for the Mafia's taste, and attracted far too much federal scrutiny. After an exile in Mexico, Giancana was murdered in his basement with multiple gunshots to the head, before he could give Senate testimony on CIA plots to assassinate Fidel Castro.




KING CAPONE’s chief means of attaining electoral success was his reliance on local precinct captains, who marshaled and delivered votes on a neighborhood-by-neighborhood basis. Many of these precinct captains held patronage jobs with the city, mostly minor posts at low pay. Micdouble hockey sticke Obama’s father, Fraser Robinson III, was a precinct captain in the KING CAPONE machine.

Each ward had a ward leader in charge of the precinct captains, some of whom were corrupt. The notorious First Ward (encompassing downtown, which had many businesses but few residents) was tied to the local mafia or crime syndicate, but KING CAPONE’s own ward was supposedly clean and his personal honesty was never questioned successfully, primarily because he controlled all levels of the government and media that could have questioned him.
KOOLAIDE KILLA Posted - 09/26/2009 : 12:21:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by REEM

THE ROGUE'S SHOT CYRUS. WOULD YOU EVER PUT UP A PRODUCTION AND SAY "IT WAS'NT US. IT WAS THEMMMMMM"?? POINT BEING IS THAT WAR IS POINTLESS. WE HAD WARS BACK IN DA DAY AND IT HELPED US GET UP MORE. NOW FOR ALL YOU SHORTIES OUT THERE WHO ARE "TAG BANGING". THINK OF THIS NEXT TIME YOU SEE A RIVAL WRITER OUT THERE. SAY THIS CAT IS GETTING UP MORE THAN YOU OR CROSSING YOU OUT OR FLIPPING YOU(IF PPL STILL DO THAT). NOW, WOULD YOU RATHER BEAT THE GUY DOWN, KILL HIM AND NOT HAVE HIM AROUND OR WOULD YOU RATHER WANT TO SEE WHO CAN GET UP MORE SO YOU BOTH CAN SEE WHO WINS?? WE WENT TO WAR WITH A FEW BUT IT NEVER CAME DOWN TO THROWING DOWN. THEN AFTER ALL WAS SAID AND DONE, WE BECAME FRIENDS. BACK IN THE DAY, SOME WRITERS HAD DEATH THREATS THAT WERE NEVER ENFORCED THANK GOD. ITS BAD ENOUGH THAT IN THE GAME NOW, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE EYE IN THE SKY AND 5-0. YOU GOT BEEF WITH ANOTHER WRITER? MEET HIM AND THUMB WRESTLE HIM OR ROCK PAPER SCISSORS FOR HIS GROG. YES I AM BEING SARCASTIC.THERE IS A CERTAIN OLD SCHOOLER THAT I CANT COUNT ON BOTH HANDS AND FEET THAT PEOPLE WANTED HIM DEAD. THEY WERE JEALOUS. SO WERE WE. DID WE SEEK HIM OUT? NO. WE TRIED TO GET UP MORE. I GIVE HIM PROPS FOR GOING ALL CITY. HE STILL GETS RESPECT TILL THIS DAY. YOU YOUNG ONES SHOULD HAVE THAT ONE DAY. "REMEMBER WHEN WE BATTLED??" AND THEN CHILL. MESSAGE...PEACE..MAD CREW



but i do gotta admit even when i started gett'n into it nigguhz was ready to throw bows & padlocks over a splash of paint on your piece or gett'n slashed, sh!t even gett'n stamped. no matter whut form of dis it was, you were hunted down. but then again it was only a certain few who took it that far. but you are right Reem, that made me push more & it was excite'n too. war was koo if it didn't go to the extreme of gett'n your wig split, usually when that happend their boys would get into it, or they had affiliations with gangs & they were brought in. All this because somebody dissed your piece
Sy Posted - 08/22/2009 : 8:59:26 PM
SYRES LIVES! CAN YOU DIG IT.
REEM Posted - 08/18/2009 : 3:14:25 PM
THE ROGUE'S SHOT CYRUS. WOULD YOU EVER PUT UP A PRODUCTION AND SAY "IT WAS'NT US. IT WAS THEMMMMMM"?? POINT BEING IS THAT WAR IS POINTLESS. WE HAD WARS BACK IN DA DAY AND IT HELPED US GET UP MORE. NOW FOR ALL YOU SHORTIES OUT THERE WHO ARE "TAG BANGING". THINK OF THIS NEXT TIME YOU SEE A RIVAL WRITER OUT THERE. SAY THIS CAT IS GETTING UP MORE THAN YOU OR CROSSING YOU OUT OR FLIPPING YOU(IF PPL STILL DO THAT). NOW, WOULD YOU RATHER BEAT THE GUY DOWN, KILL HIM AND NOT HAVE HIM AROUND OR WOULD YOU RATHER WANT TO SEE WHO CAN GET UP MORE SO YOU BOTH CAN SEE WHO WINS?? WE WENT TO WAR WITH A FEW BUT IT NEVER CAME DOWN TO THROWING DOWN. THEN AFTER ALL WAS SAID AND DONE, WE BECAME FRIENDS. BACK IN THE DAY, SOME WRITERS HAD DEATH THREATS THAT WERE NEVER ENFORCED THANK GOD. ITS BAD ENOUGH THAT IN THE GAME NOW, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE EYE IN THE SKY AND 5-0. YOU GOT BEEF WITH ANOTHER WRITER? MEET HIM AND THUMB WRESTLE HIM OR ROCK PAPER SCISSORS FOR HIS GROG. YES I AM BEING SARCASTIC.THERE IS A CERTAIN OLD SCHOOLER THAT I CANT COUNT ON BOTH HANDS AND FEET THAT PEOPLE WANTED HIM DEAD. THEY WERE JEALOUS. SO WERE WE. DID WE SEEK HIM OUT? NO. WE TRIED TO GET UP MORE. I GIVE HIM PROPS FOR GOING ALL CITY. HE STILL GETS RESPECT TILL THIS DAY. YOU YOUNG ONES SHOULD HAVE THAT ONE DAY. "REMEMBER WHEN WE BATTLED??" AND THEN CHILL. MESSAGE...PEACE..MAD CREW
FLASH ABC Posted - 08/10/2009 : 8:13:49 PM
warrriors come out and playyyyaayyee


warriors come out and plaaaayyyaaaayyaeeee


REEM Posted - 08/02/2009 : 2:17:51 PM
A WAR IN GRAFF SHOULD BE LIKE ROCK. PAPER, SCISSORS. NOT HEADS DUKING IT OUT. TAKE IT TO THE STREETS. NOT WITH FISTS. A NICE GAME OF JENGA WITH NAMES ON THE PEGS TO SEE WHO GET GET UP THE MOST.LOL. NEW CAM AT IRVING AND PULASKI JUST FOR THOSE WHO NEED TO KNOW. PEACE...MAD CREW
SEEN-ABC Posted - 12/25/2008 : 09:59:22 AM
Hey Merry Christmas to u all & ur families!
S1 Posted - 12/20/2008 : 09:15:48 AM
Well I miss when they were decided on quantity. When a battle was on you could'nt turn your head without seeing everything bombed. you'd spend a complete 24 hours on the tracks or ridin' the buses to make sure that you left no blank space untouched. Then the next day you'd wake up and realize that you over-did it....and you just smoked your opponent...ahhhhhh....
WISkone Posted - 12/19/2008 : 11:32:52 PM
ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN!! Say it again...
MIME Posted - 12/19/2008 : 03:58:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jaz

i miss old school wars
that where decided
on
SKILL
QUALITY
and most of all
STYLE

not quantity

where two crews would meet at a wall and battle it out and best piece win


or wayyy old school
you can bboy for best crew



Cosign.
Jaz Posted - 10/22/2008 : 10:42:07 PM
i miss old school wars
that where decided
on
SKILL
QUALITY
and most of all
STYLE

not quantity

where two crews would meet at a wall and battle it out and best piece win


or wayyy old school
you can bboy for best crew
SyceYoko Posted - 10/22/2008 : 8:25:09 PM
Bravo Flash, well sad Bru
FLASH ABC Posted - 10/22/2008 : 1:48:24 PM
AS I FLICK I SEE THAT THINGS HAVE OT CHANGED

I dont beleive in crossing out and not leaving your name. Thats abut as low as you can go.

Why flip them??? It still means to me that they got to you enough that you have to waste spray paint on them. and they are still getting up.
riddlebtb Posted - 10/05/2008 : 3:51:50 PM
In graffiti, the way you go to war shows what you’re made of. If you’re going around, trying to beat people up over the art or a stupid wall, you’re a coward. If you want to do that, then join a gang, there’s plenty of those assholes in the city already.

There are rules of engagement in true graffiti culture. This means, “NO” ass-whipping, stabbing, or shooting. If that’s what goes on, then you’ve inadvertently become “Gang-bangers” and not writers!!! According to New York standards, which is the true way passed on from the motherland’s subculture, you fight “Only” if you have to. ...And even then, you should separate that skirmish from graffiti, or risk bringing Tag-banging into the culture.

A Bomber’s battle includes the obvious, but a piecer’s battle should be done in two ways: the ”Champions” Battle, where one person is chosen on both sides to battle, or a “Crew” Battle, where the crews do productions against one another. In Chicago, compared to other cities, the hate factor is so concentrated here, that I no longer recommend crew battles, because people all-too-often give in to their hate and get hurt . Thus, the city takes an image as tag-banger central. Champion battles are what should be practiced in Chicago, this way the skills go head to head, instead of baseball bats and guns.
VENGE DBU Posted - 04/19/2008 : 12:16:28 AM
ITS TO SHOW PEOPLE YOUR NO BITCH!

V E N G E
Sine Posted - 03/14/2007 : 8:19:41 PM
WAR is War...there are "legitimate" reasons to battle but truly unless its about strictly skills its the way humans work.

KMC aint come at us because they felt they could do better, they came at us over some jaggy jelly jealousy sh*t-now I aint trying to legitimize our shin-dig-I really couldnt give a f**k at this point, but usually its a shared jealousy from one crew upon another, or a misunderstanding that blows up from cats collective egos (CAB-3xD) Still, positive sh*t can come from it. 3XD & CAB became better crews as a result of our conflict and may be one of the reasons CAB is still doing sh*t right these days.
I personally always went for the one-on-one sh*t first, but sometimes cats cant take an ass wuppin and want to be foul and all-out sh*t jumps off.
f**k it. 21 years old, & still rollin...lookin fwd to my kids rocking sh*t under that 312 banner!
W1DGET_THE_M1DGET Posted - 03/14/2007 : 5:16:41 PM
Uac v. Fik?...both sides should of known better.

new peeps should of known better...this should of never been.

this should of been strictly between the peepz involved not the crews...ur right about that Wolf.

Telly (U)...

Sivel (U)...

there should be some respect factor considering the history.

my bad for any disrespect to (U) or (F)...i'm just trying to figure out why graff ain't what it used to be.

things need to go back to the way they were.

ain't nothin' like the old school...

it ain't fair to them we show no respect...

LaDy_1 Posted - 03/14/2007 : 4:36:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Wolf 1

What the f**k are you talking about?Are you a girl?Because then it'll make more sense that you're totally retarded to this graff sh*t."All for war as long as it's not graff related"?What the f**k?You're stupid.This isn't a thread about Iraq,it's a graffiti forum,anything and everything is about graff here.You're a toy,and shouldn't be talking.



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